{"id":4625,"date":"2011-08-16T20:03:42","date_gmt":"2011-08-17T00:03:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/?p=4625"},"modified":"2011-08-16T20:03:42","modified_gmt":"2011-08-17T00:03:42","slug":"911-aa77-neads-located-in-34-seconds-when-cued","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/?p=4625","title":{"rendered":"9\/11: AA77; NEADS located in 34 seconds, when cued"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The purpose of this brief article is to document the NEADS successful search for AA77 when cued with accurate, timely information.<\/p>\n<p>The primary source documentation is found on Ch 5 ID TK, in the first NEADS delivery of audio files to the Commission.\u00a0 The Channel recorded as an open mike and the stream of audio conversations is chaotic, intermingled, and largely in the background.\u00a0 Here is a 39 second segment of that file.\u00a0 The time is approximately 0936 EDT.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/There-he-is-Ch-5-ID-TK.mp3\">There he is Ch 5 ID TK<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>From the moment MSGT Dooley announced the first results of a Colin Scoggins alert call to the Sector floor it took 34 seconds for the aircraft to be found.\u00a0 Here is a partial transcript of what can be made out on the file<\/p>\n<p>Watson:\u00a0 OK, copy<\/p>\n<p>Dooley:\u00a0 We have an aircraft 6 miles southeast of the White House<\/p>\n<p>Dooley:\u00a0 Southwest<\/p>\n<p>Dooley:\u00a0 He&#8217;s deviating<\/p>\n<p>Watson:\u00a0 OK, sir, it&#8217;s six miles<\/p>\n<p>Male Voice:\u00a0 Here it is<\/p>\n<p>For comparison, here is the clear call between Scoggins and Watson.\u00a0 Dooley began here floor announcements as soon as Watson said, &#8220;OK, copy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/093536-AA77-Scoggins-VFR-6-Miles.mp3\"><strong>093536 AA77 Scoggins VFR 6 Mile<\/strong>s<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This establishes the metric by which to measure the NEADS response time when provided timely, accurate information.\u00a0 Note that in this case, they did not have specific information&#8211;a mode 3, a lat long, or a range and bearing from a known navigation point.\u00a0 The general point out, &#8220;six miles from the White House&#8221; was sufficient.\u00a0 NEADS was then able to establish a track, B032, which faded [Pentagon impact] before the track could be forward told to CONR and NORAD.<\/p>\n<p>Some researchers speculate that NEADS was unable to locate targets on 9\/11, based on the fact that AA11 was not found.\u00a0 Those who so speculate overlook the fact that NEADS did not have timely, accurate information concerning AA11.\u00a0 NEADS established a &#8220;last known&#8221; Z point to the north of where AA11 actually was.\u00a0 Further, New York TRACON, when given a general reference was also unable to spot AA 11, as can be heard on this third audio file.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/NY-TRACON-difficulty-finding-AA11.mp3\">NY TRACON difficulty finding AA11<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The purpose of this brief article is to document the NEADS successful search for AA77 when cued with accurate, timely information. The primary source documentation is found on Ch 5 ID TK, in the first NEADS delivery of audio files to the Commission.\u00a0 The Channel recorded as an open mike and the stream of audio &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/?p=4625\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">9\/11: AA77; NEADS located in 34 seconds, when cued<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4625","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aa-77"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4625","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4625"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4625\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4629,"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4625\/revisions\/4629"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4625"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4625"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oredigger61.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4625"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}